How Expert Witnesses Can Make or Break Narcissistic Abuse Cases

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today we are going to be talking about
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the crucial aspect of dealing with
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narcissist in court or negotiation and
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whether or not you should be bringing in
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expert Witnesses and they can make or
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break you they can make or break a case
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I’ve had good ones I’ve had bad ones in
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my more than 20 years of dealing with
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cases and dealing with trials they can
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be expensive frankly they can really
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really help a case or they can hurt a
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case and they can be really really game
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changers or they can do nothing for you
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or they can actually even hurt
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you hi everybody and welcome back to my
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zung I’m a globally recognized attorney
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a negotiations and high conflict
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Communications expert I’m also the
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author of slay the bully how to
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they can come in in a variety of
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different ways whether or not it’s a
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if you’re in a family LW situation I
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want to help you with key strategies to
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understand how to effectively use expert
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witnesses to your advantage a lot of
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times people think oh you know I only
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need them for court I disagree with that
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I think that honestly if you have a
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really good expert witness you can
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actually get your case bolstered get it
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ready and even use them and and prepare
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what you have to get somebody to be
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motivated to want to resolve issues with
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you long before you get to that
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situation you can even use their
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information in a regular negotiation you
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know I was having a situation recently
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with a family member who wanted to sell
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their company and I said hey go get your
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business valuated and then go and
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approach that person with a strong
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position with a business valuation so
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that that person will know that this is
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indeed the value of the business before
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you go there so in other words there’s
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something where you can use that
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information from the expert to
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potentially influence what
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that other person was going to think or
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believe or be persuaded that way so you
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know expert witnesses can be useful not
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just in legal battles but in any kind of
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a negotiation even preuit hopefully or
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pre-negotiation so that the person can
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be persuaded especially if they see the
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person’s credentials they understand
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that the person is neutral if they feel
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like the person’s neutral let’s talk
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about psychological experts first in
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some cases let’s say it’s a it’s a
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custody situation so what you want to do
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and I talk about this in some of my
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other videos as well which you can check
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out is you know what you’re dealing with
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is you’re over here going I don’t want
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my kids with this other person or maybe
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I don’t want this person to have my kids
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5050 or whatever it is well the first
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thing that I would say to you is and
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I’ve had this ation with a lot of
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clients over the years and now I certify
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people in high conflict negotiation and
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so you know I would even say to the
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coaches that I train you know if you’re
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coaching somebody through a situation if
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it’s not
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50% you know the other person’s not
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going to get zero so where are you going
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to land on this are you going to land on
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40% 30% 20% you know where are you going
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to land and so how are you going to get
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to to that number and you’ve got to be
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able to support that number and it’s a
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whole lot easier if you’ve got a neutral
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third party who can help you get there
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otherwise you’re going to just sound
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like you are a controlling parent who
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just doesn’t want the other person to
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have their kids you really want somebody
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who’s going to be able to say listen I
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am a psychological expert I have visited
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both homes I’ve done all the
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psychological testing on both parties
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I’ve observed the children with both
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parties I have interviewed piano teacher
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the baseball coach seeing the children
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in both homes or whatever it is I’ve
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looked into the situation I’ve really
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looked under the hood and I understand
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what the context is and then they also
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will do a report based on the factors in
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the statute so the best interest of the
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child Factor in the statute because
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that’s what the judge is going to be
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interested in the judge is going to be
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interested in the law you’re over here
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based in emotion and I love my kids and
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I want to protect my children and I
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don’t think this other person should
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have them because of X Y and Z you have
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a lot of emotion wrapped up in it
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whereas the judge has to look how do the
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facts line up with the factors in the
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best interest of the child statute which
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for your state you know assuming you’re
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in the United States which I’m sure that
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if you’re not watching this from the
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United States wherever you are whatever
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the equivalent is in your country for
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the laws around the children you have to
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just look at the law as it applies to
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your particular situation so in our
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country every state has something called
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the best interest of the child and
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that’s the overall standard but the
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itself in each state there’s going to be
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factors there’s going to be elements
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within that statute so you know like I
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know in Florida there’s like 17 factors
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okay and each one of those is something
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that the court has to weigh every other
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state has a different number of them but
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you have to weigh each one of them and
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you take the facts and you you apply
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them how can you help how can you help
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your psychological expert by taking the
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elements of that statute and I mean I
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would just literally take a binder take
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a a red well take you know something and
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start organizing all of your facts all
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of your documentation according to the
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elements of that statute so that you
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have it all organized and ready to go
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and that’s what I help you do through my
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sleigh program my proven blueprint so
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that you can actually start putting it
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together start lining it up because you
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can always influence you can always make
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your argument accordingly because
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there’s always going to be ways that you
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can fashion it and and make it you know
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there’s always summaries you can do and
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listen there’s a summary of Lies There’s
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a summary of inconsistent statements
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There’s a summary of all the times they
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relate all you know whatever it is to
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say hey 58% of the time they said this
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or so yeah 73% of the time they relate
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or whatever so you can sort of be able
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to influence what the person is seeing
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and see it through that lens and so then
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that way they can evaluate was there
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emotional damage was their stress that
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was put upon this child or this family
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or this person or you know whether it
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was you you know if it’s a different
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type of a claim that you’re making maybe
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it’s a work claim maybe it’s a that you
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were dismissed when you shouldn’t have
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been or whatever it is but this way you
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can provide context whoever it is the
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psychological expert can see the
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patterns of abuse and how it it affected
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whoever the victims are over time and
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then they can see the gaslighting they
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can see the manipulation but you it’s
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not just you coming in and saying it
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this way you’re almost us using this
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expert as your mouthpiece but it’s being
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supported by actual facts and
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documentation and within the context of
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the law which is what the judge wants to
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see and needs to see in order to make
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their determination so that’s a
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psychological expert so anytime somebody
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says I want psychological testing
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they’re not going to just do
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psychological testing you know and I say
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that all the time without really good
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reason but if you put something in issue
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that they need to have psychological
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testing done like best interest of the
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child now we’re cooking now we’re
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cooking with gas that’s the
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psychological expert right is this
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making sense if this is making sense put
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make sense in the comments below making
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sense so far so that’s psychological
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experts the next one is financial
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experts Financial experts can be used in
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so many different Realms business
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situations probate litigation almost
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anything honestly certainly in divorce
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cases lifestyle what somebody’s true
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income is child support you need to know
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for even attorney fees a lot of times
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need versus ability to pay Financial
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experts are essential especially in
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divorce any kind of financial dispute
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any kind kind of business valuation
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situation what can a forensic do here
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they can trace hidden assets they can
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analyze financial statements they can
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testify about the economic in impact of
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narcissist actions so they can uncover
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hidden assets they can go to Great
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Lengths to do that I know that
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narcissist many times people think that
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they have been hiding assets and many
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times they do offshore Investments
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concealing assets I know many times in
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divorce it’s very pivotal in making sure
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that you know that you’re getting a fair
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division of property or you know what
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somebody’s true income is here’s the
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thing I’m going to tell you about that
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you want to make sure you’re getting a
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return on your investment these kinds of
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financial experts can be expensive
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especially if you’re trying to trace
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offshore assets and you’re going on this
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wild goose chase to figure out if
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somebody actually is making more money
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then they say they are and they have got
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a cash business and all that sort of
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thing so you really want to make sure
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that you’re going to have a return on
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your investment with this you know you
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don’t want to chase good money after bad
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you know a lot of times there’s a much
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bigger fear than there actually is of
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what’s actually been happening so you
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just want to make sure that you are not
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into your head with a lot of this sort
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of thing and you really do know hey I’m
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I’m going to spend 20,000 but I’m going
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to recover you know 200 or whatever it
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is or I’m going to spend 20 and I’m
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going to recover a million or something
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to that effect because or at least you
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you know like I’m going to prove that
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they spent x amount and that way I can
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put that amount on the spreadsheet and
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I’ll get credit for that amount
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something to that effect they can
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analyze financial statements especially
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complex ones I’ve had situ situations
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where you know I’ve had corporate
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Executives who’ been working out of the
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country or they have um very complex
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ways that they get paid because of how
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their stock schedules get vested or
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things like that it can be very very
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useful and helpful for that definitely
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very very helpful for those kinds of
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things quantifying and looking at
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Future how much somebody might be be
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getting paid that that kind of thing
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what their vested stock values are going
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to be so that’s Financial experts tax
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impact on things really really helpful
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many times for financial experts you
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really need them for that sort of thing
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honestly and by the way if you’re
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getting ready to negotiate with a
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narcissist make sure to get my free
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really really helpful for you to have a
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support group next thing is medical
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experts you know especially if you have
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had health issues you are claim you’re
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actually you know having issues because
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of the physical health that you’ve had
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they can provide testimony about the
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impact the severity of it if you’ve had
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physical injuries you you might need Med
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medical experts to testify as to that
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why you can’t work and explaining the
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severity if you have other issues stress
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related things that sort of thing
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invaluable because especially if you are
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asking for support of any time so if you
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guys have had to use expert Witnesses
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for anything I would love to know your
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comments remember you can hire them for
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your own case that would be your own
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expert or you can go to the court and
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have them appointed as a neutral third
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party if you do that and you ask the
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court to appoint one my recommendation
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for that is that you bring three names
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that you’re okay with because then any
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one of the three are somebody that
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you’re going to be okay with you know
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don’t just say point one ask for who you
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might be okay with if possible go ahead
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and share your stories in the comments
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of the expert witnesses that you have
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used the next kind of expert might be
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like a domestic violence expert who can
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testify as to the cycle of abuse the
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cycle of power the cycle of the impact
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on the victims they can assess the risk
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you know I haven’t really used that kind
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of expert myself that much you know most
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of the time in domestic violence cases
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they don’t really go there but you know
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you could try for that the next one is
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technology and cyber security experts in
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our increasingly Digital World
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technology and cyber Security Experts
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are becoming much much more important in
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cases they can look at threatening
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emails they can look at computers they
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can look at
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spyware they can trace the sources of
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things as much as possible it’s really
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kind of a crazy world that we live in
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nowadays and in my sleigh program I do
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have a whole thing on tracking and
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hacking devices and spyware and all of
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that and how you can detect it and how
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you can figure it out so I definitely
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recommend that you check that out at
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slay
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ornation protective measures so
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important nowadays all right so it’s
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better to you know get it on the front
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end and try to figure it out on the back
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end just saying this is you know just a
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few of the types of expert Witnesses in
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narcissist abuse cases that you can use
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there’s so many other I mean you know
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really there’s all different types of
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experts that you can bring in but those
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are like the main ones that I’ve seen I
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would love to know what your experience
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is they can really make a significant
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difference I’ve seen bad ones I’ve had
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to like OU them right in the middle of
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trial sometimes because I found out they
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were supposed to be neutral and working
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with the other side it’s crazy if you
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are dealing with a narcissist right now
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the jumping off point I promise you so
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the next video I really want you to
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watch is winning and coure against a
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narcissist a lawyer’s guide I have a
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whole video on how to win in court
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against a narcissist all right but
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